<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: What the hell are CiU and ERC waiting for?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/</link>
	<description>Your independent source of Catalan information</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:28:12 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-1001</guid>
		<description>Manuel, I&#039;ll just ask you a question, how can Catalan be possibly imposed in Catalonia? how can a language be imposed in its own country? I&#039;ll answer that for you: it can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manuel, I&#8217;ll just ask you a question, how can Catalan be possibly imposed in Catalonia? how can a language be imposed in its own country? I&#8217;ll answer that for you: it can&#8217;t.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: manuel</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-1000</guid>
		<description>I disagree. I think there is a lot of catalonians that feel Spain as their own country and feel strongly proud and related to the Spanish cultural heritage. 
They would like to have the option to educate their children in spanish and english language but they can&#039;t since they feel catalan is imposed in schools as the only &quot;vehicular&quot; language. 
They think -and I am not going to judge- that learning Spanish and English will open more doors in the future for their kids. They know they will always learn Catalan as they native language, and they are proud of that too. Lot of of people is beyond the little nationalist game politics love to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. I think there is a lot of catalonians that feel Spain as their own country and feel strongly proud and related to the Spanish cultural heritage.<br />
They would like to have the option to educate their children in spanish and english language but they can&#8217;t since they feel catalan is imposed in schools as the only &#8220;vehicular&#8221; language.<br />
They think -and I am not going to judge- that learning Spanish and English will open more doors in the future for their kids. They know they will always learn Catalan as they native language, and they are proud of that too. Lot of of people is beyond the little nationalist game politics love to play.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-459</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-459</guid>
		<description>Gràcies per la teva opinió Toni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gràcies per la teva opinió Toni</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Toni Garcia</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>Toni Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-457</guid>
		<description>Dear all

It&#039;s a great article indeed, and very good contributions followed.

However, I think of the point is very simple : all actual politicians (those who define themselves as nationalist and others) owe their posts to the fact that Catalonia still belongs to Spain.
Don&#039;t look further, when Catalonia -thanks to the citizens&#039; effort, and not the politicians&#039;-will finally achieve its independence, what will be the role and the &#039;symbolism&#039; both of ERC and CiU?
At that time, we&#039;ll have brand new parties :socialdemocatric party, liberal party, labour party... just like in any other &#039;normal&#039; state in Europe.

Simply : They do not want Independence. They are politicians, they can&#039;t do anything else in life than playing politic games to keep their chair beneath their butts... so simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great article indeed, and very good contributions followed.</p>
<p>However, I think of the point is very simple : all actual politicians (those who define themselves as nationalist and others) owe their posts to the fact that Catalonia still belongs to Spain.<br />
Don&#8217;t look further, when Catalonia -thanks to the citizens&#8217; effort, and not the politicians&#8217;-will finally achieve its independence, what will be the role and the &#8216;symbolism&#8217; both of ERC and CiU?<br />
At that time, we&#8217;ll have brand new parties :socialdemocatric party, liberal party, labour party&#8230; just like in any other &#8216;normal&#8217; state in Europe.</p>
<p>Simply : They do not want Independence. They are politicians, they can&#8217;t do anything else in life than playing politic games to keep their chair beneath their butts&#8230; so simple.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vicenç Ramoneda</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicenç Ramoneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-240</guid>
		<description>Without &quot;Reagrupament&quot; the liberty and that Catalunya will be the fourth state of Europe is not possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without &#8220;Reagrupament&#8221; the liberty and that Catalunya will be the fourth state of Europe is not possible.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-217</guid>
		<description>Thanks YuriBCN, I believe eventually a coalition formed by Reagrupament, ERC and CiU will unite to do a declaration of independence from the Catalan Parliament. Look forward to that. But we need something like Reagrupament to push everyone towards independence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks YuriBCN, I believe eventually a coalition formed by Reagrupament, ERC and CiU will unite to do a declaration of independence from the Catalan Parliament. Look forward to that. But we need something like Reagrupament to push everyone towards independence.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: YuriBCN</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>YuriBCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-215</guid>
		<description>Although I appreciate those who, like you, support Reagrupament, for the time being, ERC are the only parliamentary party who have declared that they are in favour of independence for Catalonia. However, ERC are but 21 seats, next to Convergència&#039;s 48. ERC would doubtlessly move in favour of an official referendum. The problem is CiU&#039;s lack of definition. If they were to declare themselves in favour of a referendum for independence, have no doubt that ERC would follow.

It&#039;s all very well criticising ERC&#039;s lack of support for the initiative in Parliament, but until CiU make their position clear, there will simply not be a binding referendum. Criticism should therefore be centred upon Convergència. Unfortunately, CiU members who support independence will rather criticise ERC for its position than make their own position clear and forcing CiU to take a clear stance on independence, giving their party&#039;s interest priority over that of the nation&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I appreciate those who, like you, support Reagrupament, for the time being, ERC are the only parliamentary party who have declared that they are in favour of independence for Catalonia. However, ERC are but 21 seats, next to Convergència&#8217;s 48. ERC would doubtlessly move in favour of an official referendum. The problem is CiU&#8217;s lack of definition. If they were to declare themselves in favour of a referendum for independence, have no doubt that ERC would follow.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very well criticising ERC&#8217;s lack of support for the initiative in Parliament, but until CiU make their position clear, there will simply not be a binding referendum. Criticism should therefore be centred upon Convergència. Unfortunately, CiU members who support independence will rather criticise ERC for its position than make their own position clear and forcing CiU to take a clear stance on independence, giving their party&#8217;s interest priority over that of the nation&#8217;s.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-146</guid>
		<description>Gràcies per la teva aportació Vicenç</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gràcies per la teva aportació Vicenç</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vicenç Ramoneda</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicenç Ramoneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-138</guid>
		<description>Sense Estat, Catalunya no té futur; amb l&#039;Estat a la contra, no té ni present. Cal passar de la independència com a somni i desig del cor a la independència com a projecte del cap, amb arguments, dades, raó i democràcia. Si volem, podem: per viure millor, per ser més lliures, per ser tan dignes com els més dos-cents pobles del món que tenen Estat&quot;

Visca la llibertat!
Visca Catalunya Estat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sense Estat, Catalunya no té futur; amb l&#8217;Estat a la contra, no té ni present. Cal passar de la independència com a somni i desig del cor a la independència com a projecte del cap, amb arguments, dades, raó i democràcia. Si volem, podem: per viure millor, per ser més lliures, per ser tan dignes com els més dos-cents pobles del món que tenen Estat&#8221;</p>
<p>Visca la llibertat!<br />
Visca Catalunya Estat!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vicenç Ramoneda</title>
		<link>http://www.cataloniadirect.info/2010/03/what-the-hell-are-ciu-and-erc-waiting-for/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicenç Ramoneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cataloniadirect.info/?p=469#comment-136</guid>
		<description>Without state, Catalonia has no future, with the State to the contrary, has no present. We need to move to independence as a dream and heart&#039;s desire for independence as project head, with arguments, facts, reason and democracy. If we want, we can: to live better, more free, being as worthy as the most two hundred people in the world with state &quot;

Long live freedom!
State Visca Catalunya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without state, Catalonia has no future, with the State to the contrary, has no present. We need to move to independence as a dream and heart&#8217;s desire for independence as project head, with arguments, facts, reason and democracy. If we want, we can: to live better, more free, being as worthy as the most two hundred people in the world with state &#8221;</p>
<p>Long live freedom!<br />
State Visca Catalunya!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

