Every side of every war commits crimes, better inform yourself before speaking. There is a book from Cesar Vidal “Checas de Madrid, las carceles republicanas al descubierto”. Around 11.000 people were murdered in Madrid by the Democratic Frente Popular, la izquierda. Around 110.000 didn’t die in combat, but in this “civilian trials”. The way to move forward starts by accepting that, and move forward. But slowly people are asking to revive this “memoria historica” and you are wrong. Since the 90s and most even in the last decade, “la Asociación para la Recuperación de la Memoria Histórica, desde el año 2000 han promovido la apertura de las fosas comunes y en septiembre de 2008 el número de cuerpos exhumados era de 2.317″[↑ a b Juicio a la barbarie, Luis Gómez y Natalia Junquera, El País - Domingo - 14/09/2008.] It takes time because it is quite recent history, although again, I must say, I think you are speaking from 3rd person, because I seriously doubt you personally suffered any Franco-era crime. The King didn’t stop any investigation, stop creating ghosts and telling lies. It takes time for a country to heal and be able to look back. In the case I was citing of the Apartheid, much worse than Franco’s crimes in my modest opinion, it has taken some time as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_apartheid

Teams: unless you plan on changing FIFA regulations, say bye bye to your Catalan soccer stars because the already played for Spain so they cannot switch. I was referring to your supposedly “national football team”. The Spanish national team played happily together, you want to split them up? Sure, then none of us will probably ever win, great idea! Did you ever heard of the concept of team effort, or joining forces? No, you are just stuck on “we are different”. Whatever… grow up… Many of the crimes were committed in Catalunya BY Catalonians:

http://www.hazteoir.org/node/16908

So then, as your comment, nobody should be want Catalonian either… or German, or French, or American… awesome reasoning!

EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE KEEP ON SPREADING NONSENSE

The King of Spain is the heir of Franco and a prove of that is that in Spain the crimes committed by Franco’s regime have never been prosecuted. I don’t want to be part of such a country.

Having Catalan national teams is dead easy. In fact we already have several sports where Catalan national teams play international competitions but with our own state it’ll be automatic in all the mainstream sports.

Your argument is old and badly based. Germany committed real atrocities against humanity and you don’t see everybody booing their National Anthem. Please start moving forward, this is becoming retarded…

Hatred only generates more hatred. Maybe you can learn from other parts of the World where people were in much worse situations, like South Africa and the Apartheid. Today they coexist all together and although there is space for improving, they are working towards it. You (and by you I mean just you, not a lot of other of my Catalonian friends), on the other hand, are stuck in space and time and cannot move forward. I am pretty sure you barely lived under the Franco regime, so probably do not know what you are talking about in the first person. And the King was his successor, not heir (learn the meaning of words). Are you trying to establish a parallelism between the two? Similarities? I think you are just trying to grab whatever argument you can without a reason. The King was a key instrument to establish a bridge between the Franco regime and the democracy. He designated Suarez as president under the agreement that the latter would select a group to write the Constitution:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitución_española_de_1978

Why he didn’t swear the Constitution is more obscure and I am not a historian, but if I recall correctly he had sworn to Franco certain things that would be in contradiction with swearing the Constitution. I think it is just a formalism to remain coherent. Has he gone against it? No. Then, again, what is the big deal?

I think the spread of incorrect ideas and hatred is wrong and, moreover, dangerous, so I would ask you (beg you) to inform yourself (some reading, some clases, I don’t know) before continue with this nonsense. Please be fair and more correct in your posts, because this might influent people (hopefully not many) and put wrong ideas in people’s heads.

On one hand, Catalan teams should not play it. On the other, hand it’s more fun to see how much the Spanish hate a foreign team winning their trophies year after year.

I don’t respect the Spanish anthem because it is offensive for the Catalan and Basque nations for all the crimes committed against them and because Spain actively obstructs our right to have our own national teams play international competitions.

Remember that the Bourbon is Franco’s heir and he never swore to the Spanish Constitution.